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The execution trading trap

So you want to make a packet working as a hedge fund trader? Just make sure you don't get stuck in an execution trading job.

Unbeknown to the uninitiated aspiring trader, there are two types of trading role: execution trading jobs and full-blown analyst-style fund manager trading jobs. While execution traders are effectively ops staff who place trades at the behest of other people, analyst traders have the power to make the decisions and place the trades.

Predictably, execution traders are paid less than analyst traders. Even worse, execution traders are often pigeon-holed for life.

"There's a pay ceiling for execution traders," says one unfortunate victim who's trying to escape the execution trap. "It's all about helping someone to do a job rather than creating value. Effectively it's a support function."

Even worse still, it's a stressful support function. "You're handling 100 orders at once, of which 10-20 are very important. Two or three fund managers are shouting at you to do their order," says our disillusioned practitioner. "The question is whether you want to go on until you die of a heart attack."

Headhunters weigh in against execution traders too. "They're seen as dimwits," says one.

Claude Schwab, a partner at Heidick & Struggles' US hedge fund practice, says median base pay for execution traders with one to two years' experience is $75k-$100k, with bonuses up to 100%. Base salaries for analyst-style traders are $70k-$200k, with bonuses up to 200%.

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AUTHORSarah Butcher Global Editor
  • pi
    pizzaboy
    14 July 2015

    Hi,
    can only agree to what KC1978 said, same here, working in a top tier bank within the Private bank as an execution trader.... pretty much the dullest thing somebody can do. It is true the PM who places the order has absolute no idea about the market but that is not an argument for value added, they are just not really smart people. The daily job pretty much involves a ton of Backoffice work while the more interesting part of following market or talking to clients is negligible. Usually every bank will have their sales team that informs clients about what is happening. If you are lucky you have you own book, but in many cases execution trader don't even have that, meaning they are a mere booking center and the value added consist in finding a buyer or seller, which in times of BBG isn't that complicated.
    Soon or later this job will get obsolete and a computer can do all the work.... It is nice for about a year and you get what happens in the market but after that it get dull and boring thats why I would recommend everybody to avoid or search for something else (which I am doing).

  • KC
    KC1978
    16 February 2015

    Been working at an execution desk for Asset Management in a top tier swiss bank - Bonds and Convertibles. Most boring thing ever after a while - really "uninspiring" daily routine. Biggest problem for me personally: to be compared with a lot of the above mentioned dimwits on a daily basis. Boy you have no idea what is walking around in a top tier (haha) bank. E.g. there was a collegue for whom it wasn't obvious that a bond that pays coupon in kind (PIK) - a lovely close to broke southamerican issue of course - must have a denomination of .1 or even smaller due to the nature of the bond. But since he executed a cleint order in that issue and operations was not capable either the came back to him saying his 35'698 -ish nominal size is not tradeable and they can't settle the trade since denomination is min 50'000 everyday life in a top tier institution. Fluctuation is high - especially in ops - so those who know what they are doing and have some sort of normal standards (not to mention those with higher ones) do leave in an instant after realizing. My 5cents: the bigger the employer the more specialised the execution role - the more dimwit routine you'll be facing. If it's a role that covers execution in several product categories you're good.

  • ne
    neil
    5 August 2008

    i have lost count of how many execution traders i have met. the job is a dead duck , if you're looking to get into the role now i wouldn't bother.

  • hf
    hf trader
    3 August 2008

    a very poor and uninformed article.
    effectively the trader is on risk the minute he receives the order from the pm - he can add or destroy alpha purely from his decisions on how he works the order depending on his knowledge of the stock, the market, likely newsflow, etc. machines will never replace this - just look at the poor performances of algos in risk arb stocks!
    hf traders in multi-strats usually have to be expert in several asset classes: equities, options, futures, cbs, cds, etc even stock loan....plus receiving 3000+ bloomie messages and colour calls a day means they need to disseminate exactly what is useful to their analysts, pms as well as their own orders.
    most guys will also have their own discretionary book too.
    sales traders vary widely, but the smartest add a lot of value especially when news breaks.
    yes i am biased but if all the above categorizes one as a 'dimwit' then i am happy to be classified as one! just my view but those comp numbers well out too

  • Mo
    Mor
    29 July 2008

    There are a number of ways but probably the one which is best (for anyone) is to ask salespeople. They talk to the execution brokers and they know the client (or at least, they should know their client) and how the company operates. The should be able to judge which company is looking for people and which is good to work for (both structure, colleague and probably pay-wise). These people are also in the right place to launch you (or differently put: Sell you) to their client. However in such a case they are putting their own reputation on the line for you. Hope this helps

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